Motors Liquidation - ex GM - Ultimatum alla bancarotta

Peccato che se GM inondasse il mercato di ordini di acquisto per 4 mld di dollari sui bond, questi stessi skizzerebbero a 100 in un baleno.....:D

Poco, poco ... Piano, piano ... day by day ... every day ... zitti, zitti ... quatti, quatti ... Insomma, comprare liberamente, ma in punta di piedi ... :cool:
 
(AGI) Washington, 26 gen. - A neanche una settimana dal giuramento, Barack Obama oggi dovrebbe cominciare a mettere mano a uno dei punti nodali del suo programma: la lotta al surriscaldamento climatico. Con un'inversione di marcia rispetto alle politiche dell'amministrazione Bush, la Casa Bianca compie i primi passi per consentire agli Stati di limitare le emissioni auto dei gas responsabili dell'effetto serra e impone piu' rigidi standard di efficienza energetica. Secondo fonti dell'amministrazione, Obama chiedera' all'Agenzia per la Protezione Ambientale (EPA, nell'acronimo in inglese) di riconsiderare la richiesta della California di imporre limiti rigidi sull'inquinamento delle automobili; richiesta bocciata sotto l'amministrazione Bush. La direttiva di Obama chiedera' all'Epa di cominciare a lavorare immediatamente per garantire alla California - uno Stato decisamente all'avanguardia in fatto di protezione ambientale - di fissare propri autonomi standard di emissioni. La California vuole infatti abbattere del 30 per cento entro il 2016 le emissioni. Se l'Epa ribaltera' la precedente decisione (ma per la sentenza si dovra' attendere qualche mese) altri 12 Stati potranno imporre limiti piu' rigidi in fatto di emissioni di diossido di carbonio. Non solo. Nel suo annuncio. Obama dovrebbe emanare una direttiva che chiedere a tutte le agenzie federali di cominciare a mettere in linea gli edifici del governo con piu' efficienti standard d'efficienza energetica. La nuova amministrazione punta a risparmiare in consumi energetici qualcosa come due miliardi di dollari all'anno.

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Inizia il lento, ma inesorabile rullo compressore contro le fonti di inquinamento ... :yes:
E' l'alba di una nuova era nella quale le auto tradizionali saranno man mano messe al bando ... a favore di quelle ecologiche ... OK!
Il ricambio generazionale del parco mondiale autoveicoli è ormai innescato e ... nessuno lo potrà più fermare ... :cool:
 
La prox settimana (02-06.02.2009) potrebbe davvero essere l'ultima di stasi dei bonds GM ... mentre quella successiva (09-13.02.2009) diverrà fondamentale per decifrare gli orientamenti della trattativa in corso fra GM e i bondholders istituzionali ... :cool:

Se tutto andrà per il meglio i Fondi cominceranno a rastrellare bonds GM (per mediare il pmc dei titoli detenuti e per aumentarne il quantitativo da negoziare...) proprio nella settimana tra il 9 ed il 13 Febbraio 2009 ... e poi ancora dal 16 al 17-18 Febbraio 2009 ... :cool:

Dunque la previsione secondo cui attorno al 06.02.2009 dovrebbe esserci un'inversione di tendenza nei corsi dei bonds GM appare abbastanza probabile, logica e soprattutto consequenziale ... :o
 
GM è già così sicura che il piano di rinegoziazione del debito obbligazionario avrà pieno successo che si preoccupa fin d'ora di neutralizzare l'inconveniente fiscale dell'intera operazione di ristrutturazione ... :cool:
La notizia è un indicatore formidabile del buon avanzamento delle trattative con i bondholders e con lo UAW ...! OK!



(ANSA) - ROMA, 2 FEB - GM rischia di dover pagare sette miliardi di dollari di passivita' fiscali se il Congresso Usa non varera' un provvedimento ad hoc. Lo scrive Bloomberg. La casa sta cercando di convincere i legislatori ad approvare un emendamento al pacchetto di stimolo da 819 mld ricevuto dal governo, per evitare il pagamento di tali oneri fiscali, che potrebbero derivare da uno dei capitoli del piano di ristrutturazione che prevede di compensare con azioni i creditori ed i lavoratori.
 
07.02.2009 - WASHINGTON (Reuters)

Il Senato democratico Usa ieri sera ha deciso di mettere da parte le speranze per un pacchetto di stimoli più ampio e ha dato l'ok ad un compromesso di circa 800 miliardi di dollari.

I Democratici hanno detto che il voto sul passaggio del pacchetto -- la cui bozza è stata realizzata da un gruppo di parlamentari moderati di entrambi i partiti e che è osservato molto da vicino dall'estero perché è visto come l'impegno americano a contribuire alla ripresa dell'economia mondiale -- si terrà martedì.

"Siamo contenti che il processo stia andando avanti e siamo sempre più vicini al dare agli americani un piano per creare milioni di posti e far tornare la gente al lavoro", ha detto il portavoce della Casa Bianca Robert Gibbs.

Con gli Usa nella morsa della peggiore crisi economica degli ultimi 70 anni, Obama ha chiesto che la legge arrivi sulla sua scrivania entro il 16 febbraio.

Dopo cinque giorni di negoziati, i Democratici si sono accordati per tagliare decine di miliardi di dollari dalla loro iniziale proposta di 937 miliardi.

Il gruppo ha annunciato l'accordo per 780 miliardi di dollari di spesa e taglio delle tasse, che potrebbe salire di altri 47 miliardi di dollari a causa degli incentivi che i senatori avevano precedentemente aggiunto per le case e la vendita delle auto.

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Ecco finalmente che si delinea l'importante fase di varo dei fondi per incentivare il mercato degli autoveicoli ... Questa decisione è fondamentale per il rilancio del Settore automotive ...!!!
Inoltre, con la ripresa delle vendite si risolverebbero più facilmente tutte le varie difficoltà relative al finanziamento statale ed alla sopravvivenza delle 3 Big di Detroit ...
Infine, le tribolate trattative con lo UAW ed i Bondholders perderebbero quel carattere di priorità e/o urgenza che finora hanno avuto presso il ceto politico ... :cool:
 
General Motors Said to Plan Salaried-Job Cuts as It Presses UAW
Last Updated: February 7, 2009 00:00 EST

By Jeff Green

Feb. 7 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp., trying to cut enough costs by a March 31 deadline to keep $13.4 billion in U.S. aid, is readying a plan to fire thousands of salaried employees, people familiar with the plans said.

The company will include the plans in a Feb. 17 progress report to the U.S. government, said the people, who asked not to be named because the plan isn’t public. The total may match the more than 5,000 salaried positions eliminated last year, the people said. GM started offering buyouts to 62,000 union workers this week and is in talks with the United Auto Workers about trimming benefits.

“They need to be very aggressive,” said Dennis Virag, president of the Automotive Consulting Group Inc. in Ann Arbor, Michigan. “They need to prove they can be viable. To do that, they need significant cutbacks of both salaried and union workers.”

GM is facing increased pressure to slash expenses after the Detroit automaker’s U.S. auto sales fell 49 percent in January. GM and Chrysler LLC have a Feb. 17 deadline for a progress report on their efforts to restructure their businesses, return to profit and repay $17.4 billion in U.S. loans by the end of 2011.

GM spokeswoman Renee Rashid-Merem said the company had no comment on the contents of the progress report. UAW spokesman Roger Kerson had no comment.

Last month, the company forecast U.S. industrywide sales this year of 10.5 million cars and light trucks, compared with 13.2 million last year and an average of 16 million this decade.

Plunging Sales

GM said it expects global sales will fall to 57.5 million autos from 67.1 million last year, or about 10 percent worse than a December forecast for global sales.

“The decline is a global situation, so the cuts need to be made on a worldwide basis,” Virag said.

GM managers are looking for positions to eliminate in all departments worldwide as global demand shrinks, said the people. The automaker may announce some actions prior to the Feb. 17 report, the people said.

GM said in the Dec. 2 report to Congress that it plans to cut its U.S. salaried and union workforce in 2012 to a range of 65,000 to 75,000 workers, from 96,537 last year.

The automaker reduced salaried costs by 30 percent last year through job cuts and elimination of benefits. Moves included cuts to health care for retirees 65 and older, a halt to matching contributions to 401(k) retirement programs, and the elimination of bonuses or raises this year. GM has about 29,000 U.S. salaried workers.

Union Talks

The salaried-job cuts may help with efforts to get additional union concessions, the people said. GM is offering retirement incentives to most of its 62,000 UAW members that include $20,000 cash and a $25,000 voucher for a new car for workers willing to retire or quit. About 22,000 of the GM workers are eligible to retire.

GM would like to get more than 10,000 union workers to leave and is expecting at least half that many to accept, one person said. Workers have until March 24 to decide.

The UAW has already agreed to end the so-called jobs bank program, which paid members to show up for work when there weren’t tasks to perform. The jobs bank program started in 1984 as part of an agreement to help prevent firings of workers replaced by robots or by other productivity improvements.

GM and the UAW are focusing talks on programs that supplement workers’ pay when they are laid off, the cost for vacations and other paid time off, and classification of so- called skilled trades positions like electricians and pipe fitters, said the people. There have been no agreements on changes in any of those areas.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger has said the union will do its part to help find savings as long as other stakeholders accept concessions.

Union’s Concessions

The UAW agreed in 2007 to pay new employees half the wages of current workers -- a split the union resisted for most of the past seven decades -- and transfer liability for retiree health care to a union-run fund.

Chrysler, seeking to keep $4 billion in loans, has also worked out an agreement to end the jobs bank. In a Jan. 22 letter to local union leaders, UAW Chrysler Vice President General Holiefield said the supplemental pay and health-care coverage may also be subject to changes.

GM is in talks with bondholders to reduce $27.5 billion in unsecured debt to about $9.2 billion by swapping for equity. In a separate equity swap, it plans to reduce obligations to a union-retiree health-care fund by 50 percent to $10.2 billion.

The survival strategy also includes a plan for GM to sell, drop or de-emphasize half of its brands and to cull 1,700 U.S. dealers from its 6,400 total.

Plan Deadline Approaches

GM has made “extensive plans and progress,” director George Fisher said Feb. 3 in a statement after the board reviewed the automaker’s blueprint for the Feb. 17 deadline. Those talks included the UAW plan, the people said.

The Treasury Department set the loan terms under then- President George W. Bush in December, bailing out GM and No. 3 Chrysler after the companies said they would run out of operating funds as early as last month. The automakers say they oppose the idea of filing for bankruptcy.

GM has to present a plan by Feb. 17 that outlines its plan for long-term viability, competitiveness and energy efficiency, including how it will repay the loans, restructure its business and ensure a positive value for the automaker in the future. The plan must show monthly detail through 2010 and annual projected financial results through 2014.

By March 31, GM must have union approval for any contract changes as well as an agreement to cut the costs of the union retiree health-care fund. The automaker must also have begun the debt exchange offer with bondholders.

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Auto: GM verso 5. 000 licenziamenti
Tra cui molti 'colletti bianchi'

(ANSA) - ROMA, 7 FEB - General Motors sta preparando un piano che prevede migliaia di licenziamenti, anche oltre le 5.000 unita', fra cui molti colletti bianchi. L'obiettivo, scrive la Bloomberg, e' di approntare i risparmi necessari a mantenere i 13,4 miliardi di dollari di aiuti ricevuti dallo Stato. Nessun commento da Gm.

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Prosegue la riduzione strutturale dei costi aziendali ...! :o
 
General Motors Said to Plan Negotiations With Bondholders, UAW
Last Updated: February 8, 2009 00:00 EST

By Serena Saitto, Zachary R. Mider and Jeff Green

Feb. 8 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. executives, advisers, bondholders and union officials plan to meet this week in Detroit to negotiate the government-ordered debt restructuring of the automaker, two people close to the talks said.

The discussions, which are said to include all global debt holders, follow previous informal talks as part of the Detroit automaker’s plan to reduce $27.5billion in unsecured debt to about $9.2 billion by swapping for equity, the people said. They asked not to be named because the meetings, scheduled for tomorrow and Feb. 10, are private.

GM is under pressure to show progress in negotiations with bondholders and the United Auto Workers ahead of a Feb. 17 status report to the U.S. Treasury as part of an agreement to keep $13.4 billion in loans the automaker needs to stay out of bankruptcy. GM has pledged to reduce dealers and brands.

“As we continue our restructuring and work toward meeting the terms of the term loans, GM is providing certain necessary information to key stakeholders’ advisers so they can appropriately evaluate the decisions they will have to make,” GM spokeswoman Renee Rashid-Merem said.

“Given the confidential nature of those discussions, we won’t discuss any specifics.”

UAW spokesman Roger Kerson didn’t immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

‘Serious Blow’

Pacific Investments Management Co., manager of the world’s biggest bond fund, resigned from the bondholder committee last month, Bill Gross, Pimco’s co-chief investment officer, said Jan. 20. The defection of Pimco was a “serious blow” to GM’s exchange offer, KDP Investment Advisors Inc. said at the time.

The 10-member bondholder committee includes San Mateo, California based Franklin Resources Inc. and Fidelity Investments of Boston, a person with knowledge of the situation said last month.

If GM can’t convince the bondholders and UAW to agree to new terms, the government could force GM to return the loans or convert them into funding for a government-backed bankruptcy. GM has said a bankruptcy may lead to liquidation because it would further erode sales, which fell 49 percent in its home market in January.

GM also is required to reduce UAW labor costs to close to parity with foreign automakers with operations in the U.S., such as Toyota Motor Corp. and in a separate equity swap, reduce obligations to a union-retiree health-care fund by 50 percent to $10.2 billion.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger has said he is willing to make concessions if other stakeholders, including bondholders and GM executives also make concessions.

Job Cuts

GM is also readying a plan this month to cut thousands of salaried jobs, people familiar with those plans said. Those cuts may help with efforts to get additional union concessions, the people said. The job losses may be similar in magnitude to more than 5,000 eliminated last year, the people said.

GM is offering retirement incentives to most of its 62,000 UAW members that include $20,000 cash and a $25,000 voucher for a new car for workers willing to retire or quit. About 22,000 of the GM workers are eligible to retire.

GM would like to get more than 10,000 union workers to leave and is expecting at least half that many to accept, one person said. Workers have until March 24 to decide.

The survival strategy also includes a plan for GM to sell, drop or de-emphasize half of its brands and to cull 1,700 U.S. dealers from its 6,400 total.

Chrysler Plan

By Feb. 17 GM, along with Chrysler LLC, which borrowed $4 billion, must outline its plan for long-term viability, competitiveness and energy efficiency. The plan must demonstration how the automakers will repay the loans, restructure their business and ensure a positive value for the automakers in the future.

The plan must show monthly detail through 2010 and annual projected financial results through 2014.

By March 31, GM must have union approval for any contract changes as well as an agreement to cut the costs of the union retiree health-care fund. The automaker must also have begun the debt exchange offer with bondholders.

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L'unica soluzione sarebbe prendere tutto il menagement, metterlo alla porta, e richiamare il grande Lee Iaccocca.

Tempo 24/36 mesi, la situazione si risolverebbe:)
 
GM, Chrysler May Be Put Into Bankruptcy to Protect U.S. Loans

Feb. 9 -- General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC may have to be forced into bankruptcy by the U.S. government to assure repayment of $17.4 billion in federal bailout loans, a course of action the automakers claim would destroy them.

U.S. taxpayers currently take a backseat to prior creditors, including Citigroup Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc., according to loan agreements posted on the U.S. Treasury’s Web site. The government has hired a law firm to help establish its place at the front of the line for repayment, two people involved in the work said last week.

If federal officials fail to get a consensual agreement to change their place in line for repayment, they have the option to force the companies into bankruptcy as a condition of more bailout aid. The government would finance the bankruptcy with a so-called “debtor in possession” or DIP loan, a lender status that gives the U.S. priority over other creditors, said Don Workman, a partner at Baker & Hostetler LLP.

“They are negotiating to see if they can reach an agreement,” said Workman, a bankruptcy lawyer based in Washington. “If not, they are saying ‘We are pretty darn sure that a bankruptcy judge will allow us’” to be first in line for repayment.

Both automakers have dismissed calls to reorganize under bankruptcy protection, saying a Chapter 11 restructuring would scare away buyers and lead to liquidation. GM and Chrysler are working toward a Feb. 17 deadline to show progress on a plan put in place as part of the U.S. loans received in December from the Troubled Asset Relief Program. They must reduce labor costs and show how they will repay the money by next month.

Out of Court

GM and Chrysler are already trying to restructure out of court, cutting labor costs, reducing debt levels and eliminating dealers. GM is in talks to pare $27.5 billion in unsecured debt to about $9.2 billion in a swap for equity.

The company said it plans to shut dealers and reduce obligations to a union retiree health fund by half to $10.2 billion in a separate equity swap. Chrysler Chief Executive Officer Robert Nardelli has said his company will also try to cut debt levels.

January sales from automakers plunged 55 percent at Chrysler, 49 percent at GM and 40 percent at Ford Motor Co.

Ford, the second-largest U.S. carmaker, has declined government bailout funds so far.

The government has the option of working out an intercreditor agreement outside of bankruptcy that would give it rights to some collateral ahead of other creditors. Such agreements, often made when money is lent to a company that already has liens on most of its assets, are usually negotiated when the loan is made.

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GM, Chrysler May Be Put Into Bankruptcy to Protect U.S. Loans

Feb. 9 -- General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC may have to be forced into bankruptcy by the U.S. government to assure repayment of $17.4 billion in federal bailout loans, a course of action the automakers claim would destroy them.

U.S. taxpayers currently take a backseat to prior creditors, including Citigroup Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc., according to loan agreements posted on the U.S. Treasury’s Web site. The government has hired a law firm to help establish its place at the front of the line for repayment, two people involved in the work said last week.

If federal officials fail to get a consensual agreement to change their place in line for repayment, they have the option to force the companies into bankruptcy as a condition of more bailout aid. The government would finance the bankruptcy with a so-called “debtor in possession” or DIP loan, a lender status that gives the U.S. priority over other creditors, said Don Workman, a partner at Baker & Hostetler LLP.

“They are negotiating to see if they can reach an agreement,” said Workman, a bankruptcy lawyer based in Washington. “If not, they are saying ‘We are pretty darn sure that a bankruptcy judge will allow us’” to be first in line for repayment.

Both automakers have dismissed calls to reorganize under bankruptcy protection, saying a Chapter 11 restructuring would scare away buyers and lead to liquidation. GM and Chrysler are working toward a Feb. 17 deadline to show progress on a plan put in place as part of the U.S. loans received in December from the Troubled Asset Relief Program. They must reduce labor costs and show how they will repay the money by next month.

Out of Court

GM and Chrysler are already trying to restructure out of court, cutting labor costs, reducing debt levels and eliminating dealers. GM is in talks to pare $27.5 billion in unsecured debt to about $9.2 billion in a swap for equity.

The company said it plans to shut dealers and reduce obligations to a union retiree health fund by half to $10.2 billion in a separate equity swap. Chrysler Chief Executive Officer Robert Nardelli has said his company will also try to cut debt levels.

January sales from automakers plunged 55 percent at Chrysler, 49 percent at GM and 40 percent at Ford Motor Co.

Ford, the second-largest U.S. carmaker, has declined government bailout funds so far.

The government has the option of working out an intercreditor agreement outside of bankruptcy that would give it rights to some collateral ahead of other creditors. Such agreements, often made when money is lent to a company that already has liens on most of its assets, are usually negotiated when the loan is made.

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Di articoli come quello sopra ne abbiamo letti a decine ... anche prima che il Governo Bush erogasse a Dicembre 2008 dei finanziamenti a GM per 17,4 mld USD ... :cool:

E' la solita nenia trita e ritrita ... bollita e ribollita ... KO!

No! Non ci sarà nessun Ch. 11 pilotato o bancarotta assistita ... come dir si voglia ...! :no:
Tali eventualità sono utili come "deterrente" o semplice "minaccia" ... per lo UAW ... ma non verranno mai considerate una via seriamente percorribile ... (tranne forse da alcuni analisti che pensano da ragionieri accademici ... senza comprendere nulla di materia commerciale ...) ... :cool:

La visione puramente teorica di un Ch. 11 pilotato ... indubbiamente appare seducente ... per le menti abituate a considerare soltanto gli aspetti "ragionieristici" e "finanziari" del problema GM ... :cool:

Tuttavia, come già detto e ribadito quasi all'infinito ... fin dai primordi della serie di thread dedicati a GM-GMAC ... se si analizza il tutto da un punto di vista "commerciale" allora si scopre che il Ch. 11 è e rimane un viaggio senza ritorno per le Società che vendono beni durevoli (come ad esempio le automobili...) ... :cool:
A queste conclusioni giungono tutti i sondaggi presso i consumatori indistinti ... Tale dato di fatto è ben noto sia alle 3 Big di Detroit ( GM, Chrysler, Ford), sia al ceto politico in generale ... :cool:

Peraltro, l'eco di un Ch. 11 di GM avrebbe una devastante risonanza mondiale ... attraverso i media ed il loro consueto modo sensazionalistico di presentare le notizie di questo genere ... "Il colosso GM morente ..." "GM dichiara bancarotta..." "La fine della secolare Big di Detroit..." etc ... :mmmm:
Si pensi, ad esempio, al totale disorientamento indotto nei consumatori cinesi, indiani, russi, brasiliani ... Per non parlare degli stessi consumatori americani ... :wall:
Solo gli addetti ai lavori capirebbero le sottili differenze tra un tradizionale fallimento ed un "Ch. 11 pilotato" ...?!
Le conseguenze commerciali diverrebbero così terrificanti da determinare il crollo assoluto delle vendite ed il conseguente collasso economico definitivo della GM ... KO!

No! Non ci sono alternative all'accordo bonario ... Il Ch. 11 può solo essere "minacciato" non mai attuato ... salvo che una parte preponderante del medesimo ceto politico desideri davvero la fine dell'Industria automotive in USA ... :o
 
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.. salvo che una parte preponderante del medesimo ceto politico desideri davvero la fine dell'Industria automotive in USA ...

Se GM si trova in queste condizioni non è per un parte preponderante di ceto un politico. Ma è un fallimento di tutti gli stakeholders di GM.
 
Se GM si trova in queste condizioni non è per un parte preponderante di ceto un politico. Ma è un fallimento di tutti gli stakeholders di GM.

Ma ora GM si sta ristrutturando e risanando ... anche grazie agli aiuti statali ... proprio come fece nei primi anni ottanta la Chrysler di Jacocca ...! :cool:

La storia si ripete ...! :o

E noi tutti saremo testimoni della sua rinascita industriale ...! OK!
E allora ... avremo l'ennesima conferma che gli affari in finanza richiedono tempismo, coraggio, intuizione ... lungimiranza ... ! ;)

Non esistono solo i bilanci ... ma anche fattori "fuori campo" che sono degni di altrettanta considerazione ... ;)
 
UAW Focuses Negotiations on Ford as GM, Chrysler Talks Stall
Last Updated: February 15, 2009 00:11 EST

By Mike Ramsey Jeff Green and Keith Naughton

Feb. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co., the only major U.S. automaker not relying on U.S. government aid to survive, is the focus of United Auto Workers negotiations this weekend after talks with General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC stalled.

The union objected to GM and Chrysler proposals to modify a retiree health-care fund that UAW lobbyist Alan Reuther said Feb. 13 went beyond the requirements of the $17.4 billion U.S. Treasury loans. The government requires signed preliminary labor agreements by Feb. 17, though it hasn’t said what the consequences would be of missing the deadline.

Ford continues talking with the union, said company spokesman Mark Truby, who declined to characterize the talks. The union is going to the strongest automaker first, as it usually does in contract negotiations, said a person briefed on the talks.

“What this reflects is that the UAW has a better relationship with Ford and feels that an agreement that suits both sides can be reached and can then be spread to the other automakers,” said Harley Shaiken, a labor professor for the University of California at Berkeley.

The UAW halted serious negotiations with Detroit-based GM Feb. 13, a person familiar with the talks said. Chrysler is still talking with the union, though meetings haven’t been substantive, said a person briefed on those discussions, in part, because union President Ron Gettelfinger has stayed at the Ford talks.

Ford had said it expected to receive whatever concessions the UAW granted GM and Chrysler, and Gettelfinger said last month that Ford likely would get similar concessions.

UAW Sees ‘Non-Starter’

The GM and Chrysler proposals on the Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Association “contradict the explicit terms of the Treasury loan agreements, and would severely hurt retirees,” the UAW’s Reuther said in an e-mail Feb. 13. “These proposals are a non-starter as far as the UAW is concerned.”

The terms of the Dec. 19 loan agreements from the U.S. Treasury require GM and Auburn Hills, Michigan-based Chrysler to convince the UAW to accept half of scheduled payments into a union-run retiree health-care fund next year in equity instead of cash. The automakers are also seeking to eliminate supplemental unemployment pay and to change plant work rules to trim labor expenses.

In GM’s case, the union must sign off on a cash contribution of $10.2 billion to the VEBA instead of $20.4 billion, GM said Jan. 15. The UAW already agreed to accept reduced cash payments into the health-care fund, which was established under the 2007 contract that let automakers pay new workers half as much as traditional union employees.

Shared Sacrifice

Gettelfinger said in 2007 that the union was confident the VEBA could pay the health-care benefits of retirees for the next 80 years. He has said he’s willing to make additional sacrifices to help the automakers avoid bankruptcy if auto executives, debt holders and others also sacrifice.

Chrysler spokeswoman Lori McTavish and GM spokesman Tony Sapienza declined to comment yesterday on the status of the talks.

Sapienza said Feb. 13 GM is committed to meeting the Feb. 17 deadline. Chrysler, 80.1 percent owned by Cerberus Capital Management LP, said it also plans to meet the deadline.

The automakers are also asking the union to end a 54-year- old benefit that ensures almost full pay during layoffs.

The so-called “supplemental unemployment benefit,” or “SUB” pay, gives laid-off workers most of their take-home wages. Automakers and the UAW are discussing the future of the program, said people familiar with the talks, who asked not to be named because the negotiations are private. The UAW isn’t negotiating cuts in core wages or benefits, the people said.

More Savings

Lacking that cushion, older union members may retire and make way for new hires who are paid half as much, people familiar with the bargaining strategy said. Members of Congress who opposed an auto bailout criticized the benefits, and the U.S. Treasury loans require the automakers to stop all but “customary severance pay” to laid-off employees.

GM and Chrysler are offering buyouts for most of their 91,000 UAW workers.

The automakers in the past two weeks eliminated the so- called jobs bank, a 25-year-old program that paid UAW employees their full salary to report to work with no duties to perform, which was also criticized by Congressional Republicans last year.

Advisers to GM’s debt holders are also in discussions to reduce $27.5 billion in unsecured debt to about $9.2 billion by swapping for equity, said two people close to the talks. GM bondholders are working to craft a debt exchange that encourages investors to participate, said a person with direct knowledge of the discussions.

If GM and Chrysler can’t persuade the UAW and bondholders to agree to new terms, the government could force the automakers to return the loans or convert them into funding for a government- backed bankruptcy. GM Chief Executive Officer Rick Wagoner told Congress in November that Chapter 11 would lead to liquidation because shoppers won’t buy from a bankrupt automaker.

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I colloqui negoziali proseguono in particolare tra lo UAW e la Ford ... :cool:
 
(ANSA) - ROMA, 14 FEB
Mercato italiano dell'auto

L'effetto incentivi gia' si fa vedere sul mercato dell'auto: i concessionari per lo scorso weekend segnano +60-70% dei preventivi.
'L'arrivo degli incentivi - nota Piero Mocarelli, titolare del gruppo concessionarie Car World Italia e vicepresidente di Federaicpa, la federazione dei concessionari - ha finalmente riportato un po' di movimento nelle nostre aziende, vediamo in che misura si concretizzeranno gli ordini'.

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Ora attendiamo che ... a tempo debito ... anche negli USA si facciano sentire i benefici effetti degli stimoli economici varati dal Senato ... :yes:
 
(ANSA) - NEW YORK, 18 FEB -General Motors e Chrysler consegnano al governo Usa i piani di ristrutturazione che prevedono tagli drastici e ulteriori richieste. Le due case automobilistiche potrebbero avere bisogno di ulteriori 21,6 mld di dlr,oltre a quelli finora stanziati. Chrysler annuncia il taglio di 3mila posti di lavoro e Gm di 47mila. La stessa Chrysler giudica l'alleanza con Fiat 'l'opzione migliore'.L'esame dei progetti partira' -dice il segretario al Tesoro Timothy Geithner- alla fine della settimana.

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Cento pagine per spiegare che un'eventuale bancarotta sarebbe più costosa del salvataggio: nel piano di ristrutturazione presentato al Governo, General Motors presenta tre possibili scenari di bancarotta e conclude che nessuno dei tre è favorevole. Il costo - afferma - sarebbe pari a circa 100 miliardi di dollari, cioè decisamente superiore al salvataggio, che complessivamente fra gli aiuti già ricevuti e quelli nuovi chiesti, potrebbe arrivare a costare 30 miliardi di dollari. Gm propone tagli drastici e cambi di strategia per rimanere in vita. Ma chiede anche ulteriori fondi rispetto ai 13,4 miliardi già incassati (l'ultima tranche da 4 miliardi è stata ricevuta martedì): per salvarsi potrebbero essere necessari fino a 16,6 miliardi di dollari in più.




 
Secondo me non la fanno fallire prima di chiudere il gap....:Dshark dove sei?:D
 

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Dopo una serie di candele nere e Marubozu neri, finalmente una candela con una lunga coda inferiore che indica pressione dei compratori, forse è un segnale di inversione anche se non è un pattern; quindi possibile recupero dei due dollari lunedì..Dopo di che cè un gap che chiama tra 2,34 e 2,47..
 

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