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certo che il 521 senza contratto a 120 $ in euro andrebbe a ruba
 
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vai che rimbalziamo


BUY ON RUMORS ... SELL ON NEWS

Oggi mi è piaciuta ... l'ho seguita un po' e con la tenuta di € 3 ho deciso di incrementare un po' verso la chiusura...

Se in USA mantengono U$D 4 ( che adesso vedo ritoccare ) e chiudono verso i massimi domani si puo' ripartire ...

Anche in USA maggiore volatilità intraday come del resto oggi in Europa ...

Stà scandalndo i motori ??? :-) Speriamo !!!

Un po' di notizie ad hoc e facciamo un bel +5% ( e sarebbe anche ora ;- ) )

Go NOKIA Go!!!

UP to € 3,50 & more

Daidal
 
ASP = Average Selling Price

Nokia Lumia = ~ 150$

iPhone = oltre 500$

Lumia ha venduto 7.4m di pezzi
iPhone 31m di pezzi

Con una differenza di prezzo 3:1 .. un po' come comprare una Panda o una Mercedes classe E ... ecco .. che nel mondo si vendono 4 volte tanto le Mercedes che non le Panda :D ... in un periodo di crisi economica.

Questo e' il successo dei Lumia

Se si tolgono i Lumia 5xx di fascia bassa ... le vendite dei Windows Phone sarebbero crollate di brutto ... come dire ... che i vostri beneamati Lumia 9xx e 8xx ... che ora sono tutti in vendita a sconto su eBay :D ... non se li kaka nessuno ... chi vuole un telefono top, aime' compra un iPhone o un S4 ... in China come in US, via EU

ps: C'e' da dire che storicamente ... nokia i soldi li ha sempre fatti vendendo i telefonini "panda" ... ma qui ... aime' i soldi non si fanno piu' ... almeno per ora ... le speranze per alzare la testa restano ancorare al Lumia 1020 .. indi per il Q3 e Q4 ... sono moderatamente fiducioso


Il mio commento in merito al ASP è il seguente: sarebbe più corretto paragonare la fascia alta della gamma LUMIA con I-PHONE...

Infatti la gamma LUMIA ha un range di prezzo molto più ampio e si parte da valori anche "economici" .... cosa che non succede in casa APPLE in quanto qui si vende un monoprodotto di alta gamma e di prezzo elevato...

Sarebbe più corretto paragonare l'ASP dell'i-phone con quello di devides come il LUMIA 920, il 925 e il 1020 anche se è ovvio che in tal caso la differenza in termini di volumi di vendita sarebbe ancora più elevata ...

Giusto x esprimere il mio punto di vista e non mischiare pere con mele ;-)

Tenere U$D 4 please :-)

UP!!!
 
Ultima modifica:
In america si va decentemente, se non succede nulla di anomalo forse domani arriviamo a €3,10. Speriamo.
 
Per chi ha voglia di una lettura in inglese ... ci sono spunti interessanti che in parte ho evidenziato ... In USA U$D 4,05 / 1,3285 = € 3,048 ( il calo del dollaro non aiuta ma domani vedremo € 3,10 ... vero NOKIA ? :-) )

UP!!!

Why Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK) Is a Historical Turnaround in the Making
By The Motley Fool in News


Published: July 24, 2013 at 1:04 pm

Believe it or not, the same company that had to pay the enormous consequences of missing the smartphone revolution for years is now having an amazing 52-week performance. In fact, with an unbelievable 135.1% price increase, Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) is by far the best performing stock among the most popular mobile device manufacturers, which include Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) and BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY).

Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK), ladies and gentlemen, could soon make history once more. It may become an impressive case study, a must-read in all MBA programs: how a company once had it all, lost it by missing the smartphone revolution, but managed a turnaround in the end, after years of patient hard work.

Miracles can happen: The Lumia case

Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK)Behind Nokia's recent success is its smartphone model Lumia and its outstanding performance in the past months. To begin with, in the latest quarter, Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) managed to sell 7.4 million Lumia devices, quite better than the 5.6 million figure for the March quarter. The downside is that the average selling price, or ASP, for Lumia phones decreased 14% sequentially, which indicates that Nokia is in the middle of an intense price war for market share, targeting price sensitive consumers. However, since Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) has been quite active in product releases for the low to mid-end smart phone market (see the Lumia 520 model), it is natural to expect a decrease in ASP.

Sell side analysts were disappointed at the 7.4 million figure, but this is no reason to become a bear. Keep in mind this represents a 32% increase from the previous quarter. It is also above management guidance (27%). Now, if you were to see the long run sales growth trajectory of Lumia devices, you will find out that Nokia is recovering significant market share against, for example, BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY) devices. As a matter of fact, the number of Lumias sold in the last quarter is higher than the number of all phones sold by BlackBerry in the same quarter.

I expect Lumia to continue outperforming in terms of sales: Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) offers so many types of Lumias that it basically has all the market covered with different price points. Furthermore, it is aggressively addressing the promising low to mid-end segment, while companies like Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) are not.

Feature phones

Feature phones are not doing so well, and Lumia sales are not yet high enough to offset the negative effect coming from the feature phone shrinking market. The number of feature phones shipped fell from 84 million units to 62 million units year to year. Also, the average sale price for these phones fell from $62 to $59.

The good news is that although Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) feature phone sales are shrinking, the company is committed to develop better feature phones, as the recent release of the Nokia 207 and 208 (which, for $68 per unit, offers 3G radios, Internet connection sharing, 30-day standby times and a camera) proved. This could help to make the shrink pace slower.

The Nokia & Microsoft partnership

So far, the decision Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) made of abandoning Symbian and MeeGo in order to focus its development entirely on the Windows Phone Operating System has proved a very wise business decision. Nokia not only benefits from using a secure OS (according to Symantec, Windows only has 2 documented vulnerabilities) with a strong brand in the corporate world, it also receives $1 billion a year from Microsoft as a compensation for focusing on developing only for Windows Phone.

Both companies are struggling to create a third ecosystem in the smartphone world, and they may succeed next year as Lumia sales continue increasing. Microsoft, on the other hand, is providing an integrated experience across all of its platforms (tablets, PCs, Xbox and smartphones) in order to make the transition of Windows PC users to Windows Mobile much easier and comfortable.

Nokia Siemens Networks (NSN)'s operating margin is improving

Apart from smartphones and feature phones, Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) has one more business unit: NSN, which specializes in research and development of mobile communication infrastructure. NSN's focus is mobile broadband, and considering this market has experienced sustained growth in the past years, the plans of Nokia to fully acquire NSN during the third calendar quarter of 2013 makes a lot of sense.

Although NSN's revenue is down 11% from the year-ago quarter, the 12% increase in adjusted operating margin looks attractive. If things go north, China Mobile's massive project to build a 4G TD-LTE network in China could imply much stronger sales in the last quarter of 2013.

The smartphone war isn't over

A turnaround is never easy, especially in a market where Apple and Samsung together have more than 80% of it. Palm couldn't make it and BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY) is struggling to survive. In this context, the moderate success of the Lumia is admirable.

However, Nokia and Microsoft are still far away from establishing successfully the Windows Phone OS as a third ecosystem. But we should not forget that Nokia is still a strong player in the mobile phone market, and a very appealing brand to price sensitive users in emerging markets. Unlike Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL), Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) has top-selling budget devices. And unlike BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY), Nokia doesn't have to promote its own ecosystem. It leaves that job to Microsoft and instead focuses on developing better, cheaper smartphones.

How about the shrinking feature phone market? Sure, many of Nokia's customers still use feature phones, but as both their income and the smartphone penetration rate in their economies increase, they could make the transition to the smartphone. This could lead to massive sales in the future and consolidate Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK)'s historic turnaround. In this way, Nokia's story in the smartphone market isn't over. It's about to start.


The article Why Nokia Is a Historical Turnaround in the Making originally appeared on Fool.com and is written by Adrian Campos.


Adrian Campos has no position in any stocks mentioned. The Motley Fool recommends Apple. The Motley Fool owns shares of Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL). Adrian is a member of The Motley Fool Blog Network -- entries represent the personal opinion of the blogger and are not formally edited.
 
Il mio commento in merito al ASP è il seguente: sarebbe più corretto paragonare la fascia alta della gamma LUMIA con I-PHONE...

Infatti la gamma LUMIA ha un range di prezzo molto più ampio e si parte da valori anche "economici" .... cosa che non succede in casa APPLE in quanto qui si vende un monoprodotto di alta gamma e di prezzo elevato...

Sarebbe più corretto paragonare l'ASP dell'i-phone con quello di devides come il LUMIA 920, il 925 e il 1020 anche se è ovvio che in tal caso la differenza in termini di volumi di vendita sarebbe ancora più elevata ...

Giusto x esprimere il mio punto di vista e non mischiare pere con mele ;-)

Tenere U$D 4 please :-)

UP!!!

DaiDal ...

Tu sei il nostro portafortuna ... e mi si spezza il cuore a contraddirti ... ma te insisti ad entrare in ambiti che conosci poco :D

iPhone5 ... non e' il solo prodotto che vende Apple ... vende ancora i vecchi iPhone 4S e pure il 4 liscio.

Il 4 liscio in US con contratto te lo regalano o quasi ...

Il fatto e' che la gente compra piu' i top, che non i bottom di casa Apple.

Invece, in casa Nokia ... se tu togli il successo dei Lumia 5xx .. scoprirai che le vendite dei Lumia top (8xx e 9xx) sono in costante calo da tempo ...

Come detto da chi ne capisce ... la gente che compra un Lumia, e' la gente che usa il telefonino come un feature-phone ... e' gente che cambia il vecchio amato Nokia S40 (quelli da non piu' di 100$) ... per un Lumia 5xx

:bye:

ps: Chi invece a suo tempo si era comprato un N95 o un N97mini, o un N8 o N9 ... i che erano i top della gamma di Nokia (e delle vere pietre miliari dell'evoluzione technologica)... al massimo avra' comprato un Nokia 808 ... ma ad eccezione del Lumia 1020 (per gli appassionati di photo) ... non vedo questi comprarsi un Lumia 8xx o 9xx.

pps: Interessante vedere come pompa la pubblicita' Micro & Soft ... dentro la popolare serie "Under the Dome" ... un buon segno questo ... la pubblicita' occulta nei film e telefilm .. aiuta a creare lo status symbol
 
Per chi ha voglia di una lettura in inglese ... ci sono spunti interessanti che in parte ho evidenziato ... In USA U$D 4,05 / 1,3285 = € 3,048 ( il calo del dollaro non aiuta ma domani vedremo € 3,10 ... vero NOKIA ? :-) )

UP!!!

Why Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK) Is a Historical Turnaround in the Making
By The Motley Fool in News


Published: July 24, 2013 at 1:04 pm

Believe it or not, the same company that had to pay the enormous consequences of missing the smartphone revolution for years is now having an amazing 52-week performance. In fact, with an unbelievable 135.1% price increase, Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) is by far the best performing stock among the most popular mobile device manufacturers, which include Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) and BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY).

Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK), ladies and gentlemen, could soon make history once more. It may become an impressive case study, a must-read in all MBA programs: how a company once had it all, lost it by missing the smartphone revolution, but managed a turnaround in the end, after years of patient hard work.

Miracles can happen: The Lumia case

Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK)Behind Nokia's recent success is its smartphone model Lumia and its outstanding performance in the past months. To begin with, in the latest quarter, Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) managed to sell 7.4 million Lumia devices, quite better than the 5.6 million figure for the March quarter. The downside is that the average selling price, or ASP, for Lumia phones decreased 14% sequentially, which indicates that Nokia is in the middle of an intense price war for market share, targeting price sensitive consumers. However, since Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) has been quite active in product releases for the low to mid-end smart phone market (see the Lumia 520 model), it is natural to expect a decrease in ASP.

Sell side analysts were disappointed at the 7.4 million figure, but this is no reason to become a bear. Keep in mind this represents a 32% increase from the previous quarter. It is also above management guidance (27%). Now, if you were to see the long run sales growth trajectory of Lumia devices, you will find out that Nokia is recovering significant market share against, for example, BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY) devices. As a matter of fact, the number of Lumias sold in the last quarter is higher than the number of all phones sold by BlackBerry in the same quarter.

I expect Lumia to continue outperforming in terms of sales: Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) offers so many types of Lumias that it basically has all the market covered with different price points. Furthermore, it is aggressively addressing the promising low to mid-end segment, while companies like Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) are not.

Feature phones

Feature phones are not doing so well, and Lumia sales are not yet high enough to offset the negative effect coming from the feature phone shrinking market. The number of feature phones shipped fell from 84 million units to 62 million units year to year. Also, the average sale price for these phones fell from $62 to $59.

The good news is that although Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) feature phone sales are shrinking, the company is committed to develop better feature phones, as the recent release of the Nokia 207 and 208 (which, for $68 per unit, offers 3G radios, Internet connection sharing, 30-day standby times and a camera) proved. This could help to make the shrink pace slower.

The Nokia & Microsoft partnership

So far, the decision Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) made of abandoning Symbian and MeeGo in order to focus its development entirely on the Windows Phone Operating System has proved a very wise business decision. Nokia not only benefits from using a secure OS (according to Symantec, Windows only has 2 documented vulnerabilities) with a strong brand in the corporate world, it also receives $1 billion a year from Microsoft as a compensation for focusing on developing only for Windows Phone.

Both companies are struggling to create a third ecosystem in the smartphone world, and they may succeed next year as Lumia sales continue increasing. Microsoft, on the other hand, is providing an integrated experience across all of its platforms (tablets, PCs, Xbox and smartphones) in order to make the transition of Windows PC users to Windows Mobile much easier and comfortable.

Nokia Siemens Networks (NSN)'s operating margin is improving

Apart from smartphones and feature phones, Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) has one more business unit: NSN, which specializes in research and development of mobile communication infrastructure. NSN's focus is mobile broadband, and considering this market has experienced sustained growth in the past years, the plans of Nokia to fully acquire NSN during the third calendar quarter of 2013 makes a lot of sense.

Although NSN's revenue is down 11% from the year-ago quarter, the 12% increase in adjusted operating margin looks attractive. If things go north, China Mobile's massive project to build a 4G TD-LTE network in China could imply much stronger sales in the last quarter of 2013.

The smartphone war isn't over

A turnaround is never easy, especially in a market where Apple and Samsung together have more than 80% of it. Palm couldn't make it and BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY) is struggling to survive. In this context, the moderate success of the Lumia is admirable.

However, Nokia and Microsoft are still far away from establishing successfully the Windows Phone OS as a third ecosystem. But we should not forget that Nokia is still a strong player in the mobile phone market, and a very appealing brand to price sensitive users in emerging markets. Unlike Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL), Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK) has top-selling budget devices. And unlike BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY), Nokia doesn't have to promote its own ecosystem. It leaves that job to Microsoft and instead focuses on developing better, cheaper smartphones.

How about the shrinking feature phone market? Sure, many of Nokia's customers still use feature phones, but as both their income and the smartphone penetration rate in their economies increase, they could make the transition to the smartphone. This could lead to massive sales in the future and consolidate Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NYSE:NOK)'s historic turnaround. In this way, Nokia's story in the smartphone market isn't over. It's about to start.


The article Why Nokia Is a Historical Turnaround in the Making originally appeared on Fool.com and is written by Adrian Campos.


Adrian Campos has no position in any stocks mentioned. The Motley Fool recommends Apple. The Motley Fool owns shares of Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL). Adrian is a member of The Motley Fool Blog Network -- entries represent the personal opinion of the blogger and are not formally edited.

Un articolo piu' zeppo di questo di errori e mistificazioni ... tavanate ... e' raro da trovarlo.

Mi ricorda tanto gli articoli assurdi apparsi post 11.2 post CES.
Qualche pazzo furioso, o megli qualche losco personaggio ben oliata dalla macchina piccola e moscia ... mentre Nokia perdeva il 30% di valore ... questi avevano il coraggio di sostenere eFlop

Anyhow ... non dimentichiamolo che questo articolo e' firmato da "Motley" il folle ... un nome .. una garanzia

Tchuss

e_lm_70

ps: Potrei portarti l'evidenza di come moltissimi punti qui sopra sono palesemente errati ... ma si entra in un circolo viziose ed infinito ... con le macchinette piccole e mosce che si andrebbero ad attaccare ad ogni cavillo o ha ruotare l'attenzione altrove

:bye:
 
O.T. Sul mio lumier:censored: 620 da ieri sera nn riesco + a connettermi a internet.
Ho tolto la sim e l'ho messa nel "vecchio" C6 e internet funziona regolarmete :yes:
Avete consigli per risolvere il problema ? :rolleyes:
Ps le impostazioni sembrano a posto...:specchio:
 
un articolo forse un po' off-topic, ma si comincia a capire che sia canon che nikon soffriranno sempre di piú nel mercato compatte a causa degli smartphone....

Canon profit up 28.6%, helped by weaker yen - MarketWatch

Non e' off topic

La "vision" che il telefonino sarebbe andato a rimpiazzare:
- La macchina fotografica
- La cinepresa
- IL navigatore satellitare
- La sveglia
- L'orologio
- La radio & MP3
(ultimamente ci aggiungere pure:
- La TV
- Il PC )

Ecco sono cose che in Nokia sapevano bene dai primi del 2000 ... mentre in case Micro & Soft le visioni sono limitate dal panzone di BallMer:censored: , che ha difficolta' techniche anche nel vedere il proprio alluce :D

:bye:
 
O.T. Sul mio lumier:censored: 620 da ieri sera nn riesco + a connettermi a internet.
Ho tolto la sim e l'ho messa nel "vecchio" C6 e internet funziona regolarmete :yes:
Avete consigli per risolvere il problema ? :rolleyes:
Ps le impostazioni sembrano a posto...:specchio:

Ripristina le impostazioni iniziali... OK!

Dando per scontato che la rete dati ce l'hai accesa :censored:
 
LG Electronics has released its earnings report for the second quarter of 2013, and while its net profit of 156 billion won ($139 million) slipped from the same period last year, it's proudly trumpeting a record 12.1 million smartphones shipped. Operating profit for it mobile unit slipped from last quarter, but grew year over year to 54.37 million, and LG is apparently banking on phones like the Optimus L II, Optimus F and of course the upcoming G2 to keep things moving in the right direction.

LG Q2 earnings show lower profit than last year, record 12.1 million smartphone sales

Ovviamente Tomi ha una sua idea ben precisa sul motivo di questi risultati... :o

LG Q2 Results, makes strong play for 3rd biggest smartphone maker at this time

And the Q2 results keep rolling in. Now we have LG results. And after their disasterous misadventure on Microsoft pushed their profitable handset business into severe loss-making, they then abandoned that and went pure Android. And the profits came back. Now LG smartphone business is very healthy, it has returned to competitive growth, and is picking up tons of market share.

Results for Q2. 12.1 million smartphones sold, up 17% from Q1 when LG was ranked 4th just behind Huawei. As Q1 is the gift-giving season in China (Huawei's primary market) we can expect Huawei to be flat or even down now in Q2, so LG's strong growth is very promising to jump LG to the top of the 'dwarfs' of smartphones. I Tweeted earlier this week that our industry how has Samsung, Apple and 9 Dwarfs in smartphones (the nine dwarfs are Huawei, LG, Sony, Lenovo, ZTE, Coolpad, Nokia, Blackberry and HTC).

So LG's market share is a preliminary 5.6%, up from 4.8% last quarter. LG was down in 2% territory at its bleakest moments when its smartphones were powered by Windows. So this shows that abandoning Windows and going Android is at least a plausible path back to prosperity for a struggling smartphone maker (like Nokia - Fire Elop Now!).

So good job LG! Keep up this work and bring up the pressure on the two top dogs. We need strong smartphone maker rivals to the duopoly of Samsung and Apple.
 

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Linda Sui, Analyst at Strategy Analytics, added, "LG was a star performer as global shipments doubled year-over-year to 12.1 million units in Q2 2013. LG captured 5 percent share and maintained its position as the world's third largest smartphone vendor for the second straight quarter. The popular Optimus and Nexus models have been the main drivers of LG's success. If LG can expand its retail presence and marketing in major countries such as the US or China, LG could quietly start to challenge Apple for second position."
Other findings from the research include:

  • ZTE shipped 11.5 million smartphones worldwide for a record 5 percent marketshare in Q2 2013. ZTE became the world's fourth largest smartphone vendor for the first time ever in its history. Growth was driven mostly by a strong performance in the huge China market;
  • Huawei shipped 11.1 million smartphones worldwide for 5 percent marketshare in Q2 2013. With Huawei in fifth position, ZTE in fourth, LG in third and Samsung in first, the global smartphone market is now clearly dominated by Asian-based brands.
Strategy Analytics: Global Smartphone Shipments Hit Record 230 Million Units in Q2 2013 -- BOSTON, July 25, 2013 /PRNewswire/ --
 
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Ovviamente Tomi ha una sua idea ben precisa sul motivo di questi risultati... :o
...

Apple e Samsung ... perdono market share ...

Entrambi i CEO sono vittime da piattaforma in fiamme ...

Serve eFlop per gettarli nei mari ghiacciati in attesa che arrivino i soccorsi :D

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Con un mercato che e' salito di oltre +50% ... e' dura per tutti i leader mantenere le quote di mercato acquisite in passato ... ma la crescita in unita' e sana sia per Samsung che per Apple.

Interessante vedere come i chinesi con Android stiano crescendo a ritmi da +100% su base annua.

:bye:

ps: Nokia anche con i "stellari" 7.4m di Lumia non hanno fatto meglio di ZTE e Lenovo ... eFlop si dovrebbe gettare a mare una seconda volta :D ... magari sta volta senza i soccorsi del ciccione BallMer:censored: affoga :D
 
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